[Modeling] Interaction Diagram specs - first draft
Gabriel [Morpheus]
g.hopmans@mssm.nl
Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:07:23 +0100
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Hello All,
What I would like to know if anyone can explain the relation between the =
old (deprecated) FIPA Interaction Protocol Library specification =
(http://www.fipa.org/specs/fipa00025/DC00025F.html) and the new upcoming =
specifications?
The working draft of the Interaction Diagrams specification is going to =
contain the redrawed FIPA Interaction Protocols but is this =
specification going to "replace" the deprecated IP library =
specification?
Best regards,
Gabriel Hopmans
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From: "Marc-Philippe Huget" <M.P.Huget@csc.liv.ac.uk>
To: "James Odell" <email@jamesodell.com>
Cc: "ModelingTC" <modeling@fipa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Modeling] Interaction Diagram specs - first draft
> Hi all,
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> James Odell wrote:
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> > Formally, this was referred to as the Sequence Diagram =
specification.
> > However, UML 2.0 now uses the term =B3Interaction Diagram=B2 to =
refer to a
> > family of diagrams ? the main one of which is the Sequence Diagram. =
The
> > remaining ones are called the Interaction Overview Diagram, =
Communication
> > Diagram, and the Timing Diagram. 95% of the Interaction Diagram =
work is on
> > Sequence Diagrams, while the Interaction Overview Diagram is vital =
to
> > Sequence-Diagram usage. Therefore, I propose that we change the =
name of the
> > spec. (The remaining communication diagram, and the timing diagram =
portions
> > we can choose to omit or not; they are very short.) Please let me =
know
> > whether or not you agree with this change. If I do not hear from =
you by 8
> > March, I will assume that either you agree or do not care. =
Although, I
> > would like to hear explicitly, if possible.
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> Well, it would be difficult for me to say I disagree with this =
proposal since I
> use as much as possible UML 2.0 in this specification. My concern is =
for
> end-users in a near future. At Barcelona, a guy asked me why we use =
the term
> protocol diagram to represent interaction protocols in AUML since he =
knows
> sequence diagrams and not protocol diagrams. If we think FIPA AUML is =
indebted
> to AUML, we have several names and the new one will need time to be =
accepted
> since UML 2.0 is so new that a lot of people don't know it exists. =
Moreover, it
> is the problem of consistency for people reading _old_ papers on AUML =
and new
> specifications.
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> Cheers,
> Marc-Philippe
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> --
> Marc-Philippe Huget
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> Agent Applications, Research and Technology Group
> Department of Computer Science
> University of Liverpool
> Chadwick Building, Peach Street
> L69 7ZF Liverpool
> United Kingdom
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> email: mph@csc.liv.ac.uk
> http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~mph
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Hello All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>What I would like to know if anyone =
can explain=20
the relation between the old (deprecated) FIPA Interaction Protocol =
Library=20
specification (</FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.fipa.org/specs/fipa00025/DC00025F.html"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>http://www.fipa.org/specs/fipa00025/DC00025F.html</FONT></A><FON=
T=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>) and the new upcoming =
specifications?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The working draft of the Interaction =
Diagrams=20
specification is going to contain the redrawed FIPA Interaction =
Protocols but is=20
this specification going to "replace" the deprecated IP library=20
specification?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Gabriel Hopmans</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>From: "Marc-Philippe Huget" =
<</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:M.P.Huget@csc.liv.ac.uk"><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>M.P.Huget@csc.liv.ac.uk</FONT></A><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>To: "James Odell" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:email@jamesodell.com"><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>email@jamesodell.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DTahoma =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Cc: "ModelingTC" <</FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:31=20
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Subject: Re: [Modeling] Interaction =
Diagram specs=20
- first draft</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
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size=3D2>> Hi all,<BR>> <BR>> James Odell wrote:<BR>> =
<BR>> >=20
Formally, this was referred to as the Sequence Diagram =
specification.<BR>>=20
> However, UML 2.0 now uses the term =B3Interaction Diagram=B2 to =
refer to=20
a<BR>> > family of diagrams ? the main one of which is the =
Sequence=20
Diagram. The<BR>> > remaining ones are called the =
Interaction=20
Overview Diagram, Communication<BR>> > Diagram, and the Timing=20
Diagram. 95% of the Interaction Diagram work is on<BR>> > =
Sequence=20
Diagrams, while the Interaction Overview Diagram is vital to<BR>> =
>=20
Sequence-Diagram usage. Therefore, I propose that we change the =
name of=20
the<BR>> > spec. (The remaining communication diagram, and =
the=20
timing diagram portions<BR>> > we can choose to omit or not; they =
are very=20
short.) Please let me know<BR>> > whether or not you agree =
with this=20
change. If I do not hear from you by 8<BR>> > March, I will =
assume=20
that either you agree or do not care. Although, I<BR>> > =
would like=20
to hear explicitly, if possible.<BR>> <BR>> Well, it would be =
difficult=20
for me to say I disagree with this proposal since I<BR>> use as much =
as=20
possible UML 2.0 in this specification. My concern is for<BR>> =
end-users in a=20
near future. At Barcelona, a guy asked me why we use the term<BR>> =
protocol=20
diagram to represent interaction protocols in AUML since he =
knows<BR>>=20
sequence diagrams and not protocol diagrams. If we think FIPA AUML is=20
indebted<BR>> to AUML, we have several names and the new one will =
need time=20
to be accepted<BR>> since UML 2.0 is so new that a lot of people =
don't know=20
it exists. Moreover, it<BR>> is the problem of consistency for people =
reading _old_ papers on AUML and new<BR>> =
specifications.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Cheers,<BR>> Marc-Philippe<BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> =
Marc-Philippe=20
Huget<BR>> <BR>> Agent Applications, Research and Technology =
Group<BR>>=20
Department of Computer Science<BR>> University of Liverpool<BR>> =
Chadwick=20
Building, Peach Street<BR>> L69 7ZF Liverpool<BR>> United =
Kingdom<BR>>=20
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size=3D2>mph@csc.liv.ac.uk</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=3DTahoma =
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